Mon 19 Sep 2005
riffing off pace’s east-meets-west blend and continuing my experiments with mashes of musically-related songs, i offer up an orientalist oddity: jay z’s “big pimpin’,” as produced by timbaland, mixed with abdel-halim hafez’s “khosara,” the song that provided timbo with the inspiration for the slinky, flute-propelled loop that undergirds j-hova’s jam.
wayne&wax, “big gyptian” (j-hova v. abdel-halim hafez)
although there was some controversy about the similarity between “pimpin’” and “khosara” (including talk of a lawsuit), timbaland apparently escaped penalty, at least at present, because in this case he replayed - i.e., re-recorded - the two-bar section (rather than digitally sampling it), and the sense appears to be that the underlying composition was not original and/or substantial enough to be infringed in this case. you will hear in the four-bars that begin my mashup that timbaland’s beat bears a very strong resemblance to the original.
this is not an unambiguous case. because the music in question is a short loop and it is re-recorded rather than sampled, it seems reasonable for timbo to get off the hook. of course, not only is the musical reference a clearly recognizable one, the two-bar phrase in question is an important part of the original, serving as an intro and as a recurring riff (notably, returning after the vocal section). at the same time, the fact that, according to this article, label owner magdi el-amroussi would have denied timbo the ability to use this fragment - “Because he’s changed the composition” - also seems to argue for timbaland’s right to do it. despite that timbo and jay used the flute loop to craft a somewhat crass (if catchy) song about pimpin’, the world would be worse off with such arbitrary, authoritarian restrictions on derivative works, whether the so-called owner of the copyright is disney or a seemingly stodgy label owner.
what i like about this mash, as with the “code of the beats” experiment, is that one gets to hear more of the original, which is great in its own right, and thus one understands the sonic inspiration at work here. at the same time, hearing the source alongside the “derivative” track offers new ways of hearing the originals. in this case, one gets to hear how timbo’s interpretation changes the original: rather than a recurring motif, the flute loop now undergirds the entire composition, moving its emphasis toward rhythmic repetition and bass frequencies. similarly, rather than supporting some southern-fried, slap-a-bitch rap, timbaland’s breezy beat, enhanced by additional winds and strings, instead accompanies the mournful, melismatic singing of abdel-halim hafez, the “king of arabic music.”
although timbo’s beat has always had me open, i gotta admit that jay’s lyrics (and those of his cohorts) tend to put me off. frankly, they make me cringe. as much as i can see the attraction of expanding the pimp-metaphor (as with the hustler, badman, etc.) and of playing the role - at bottom, it is a position of power, par excellence perhaps - i just can’t get with the misogyny when it comes down to it. similar to oliver, i have a hard time recuperating exploitation. so, rather than playing any of the verses, or even the chorus, what i have done here is to “dub in” a few of the phrases in jay’s verse that seemed more “positive” or at least could be interpreted that way. “love ‘em” (without the “leave ‘em”) seems about as good as it gets, though i found some others, too.
after putting the phrases together, i was struck that the line “take ‘em out the hood, keep ‘em lookin’ good” suggests quite another set of meanings when heard in the context of egyptian music: one can either hear jay-z critiquing conservative islam’s call for women to wear veils - recalling vybz kartel’s “you nuh haffi hide your face like bin laden gal” - or one can hear him assailing the american-style torture interrogation techniques so symbolized by hooded abu ghraib prisoners.
and despite its appearance before 9/11, “big pimpin’” does tap into our historical moment nonetheless, sitting alongside a host of other orientalist beats in hip-hop, dancehall, and various electronic genres. the resonance of middle eastern music in the world’s (urban, popular) musics has been building for some time, reflecting centuries of history of interaction, not to mention a contemporary and increasingly visible and audible cultural presence in the US.
even so, representations of middle-easterners and islam in the US (and, say, UK) remain as stereotyped and distorted as the “eastern” musical figures in contemporary popular music. the article in al-ahram notes that the hip-hop press completely conflated various asian/orientalist signifiers when trying to describe the egyptian sound of “big pimpin’”:
The identity of the composer of the song, though, has been lost within the crazy machinations of the hip-hop world. A review of the song on MTV describes it as “Bollywood-wigged NOLA bounce stutter-stepping,” ignoring its Egyptian roots. Another review describes the beat as featuring “Z droppin big willie rhymes over a swaying, South-Seas flavoured groove that’s a happy musical marriage of Brooklyn and Bali.”
so it is also my hope that a mashup of this sort can serve to bring a little more awareness to the actual music whose ghosts and caricatures today haunt mainstream radio and the global underground alike. the hafez original could serve as a window into a wonderful world of truly amazing music, which, really, should only further justify the existence of timbaland’s homage. (let’s face it: they’re not exactly competing in the same market; one’s existence does not diminish the other - on the contrary, they enrich each other’s resonance.)
i recommend tracking down the original recording of “khosara” - never mind various live versions - and giving the song a listen. it certainly holds up on its own. (i’m sayin’, how do you think it came into timbaland’s hands?) in fact, given that the infringement suit seems like a non-issue, and considering that so many of us really dig the same sounds that inspired timbo and jay-z, it would be dandy if hafez found new listeners by virtue of timbo “putting him on.” you can find one version of “khosara” on CD here (and listen to a real-audio file of the whole thing), and you can hear much, much more from him here. enchanting stuff, no doubt. listen to this alongside some um kulthum, and you’ll get a good sense of mid-20th century egyptian popular music.
a word on technique: i have pitched the hafez recording up slightly in order to match the timbo version (since the latter had the more compelling, bumping center, which i would rather not distort). when the hafez makes harmonic changes, however, i shift the timbaland up in pitch to match it (which, yeah, sometimes sounds a little weird - but this is all kind of weird to begin with, no?). i have simply replayed the first vocal section of the hafez after the jay-z-quoting dubby section in order to give the track’s form a kind of roundness. because the hafez original is substantially longer than i imagine most people’s attention spans are, i decided to excise the rest of it. (when i tried out an earlier mix of these at a boston-based college-bar, it was clear that heads were not ready. it nearly caused a riot on dance floor, and not in a good way. but i insisted on making it through at least one round of hafez’s singing before bringing back the jay-z. the manager thought i had lost it. i quit that gig shortly thereafter. when i played the same sequence at beat research, where there also happened to be some egyptians in the house, people went bananas for it.)
one final note: i’ve added some additional, locally-inflected percussion here. having added this mash into my set at the boston bounce party a couple weeks ago, i already had the two tracks arranged with some bounce-y beats underneath (i.e., all the percussion that enters after the first eight bars). i decided to leave the beats in because they give the track some nice extra drive (if obscuring some of the halftime feel of the jay-z) and because i’ve been enjoying this odd beantown groove lately. “big pimpin’” and “khosara,” both with tempos in the mid-130s, were well suited to a boston bounce refix. it’s kind of a funny tempo, i think - unsettling with its constant question, “too fast or too slow?” - but between grime, garage, b-more, techno, soca, electro, and the occasional uptempo hip-hop or dancehall oddity, among others, beats in the 130-140 bpm range seem all the rage of late. at any rate, what’s another node in the network? shit’s messy enough to begin with. i think that’s why it sounds so good.
in case you missed it at the top:
wayne&wax, “big gyptian” (j-hova v. abdel-halim hafez)
September 20th, 2005 at 12:54 am
hot hot hot. best music blog evar.
i wonder what jay-z’s lyrics sound like translated into arabic?
i’m going to try one of these de-mixes myself i think. . maybe more on a jungle tip than hip hop. . other versions of a utilised riddim mixed in with well known jungle tracks perhaps?
September 20th, 2005 at 10:27 am
Wicked wicked! I love how you pull back the curtain on your productions by showin screenshots. Listening and looking at the edits is so cool.
September 20th, 2005 at 1:21 pm
thanks, minikomi. i’d love to hear some more mashes/de-mixes (i like that one) in this vein. seems to me there’s a lot of potential, especially when you get into such version- and sample-based genres as jungle. definitely leave a trackback if you make and post anything along these lines.
September 20th, 2005 at 1:48 pm
dear wayne, you just melted my mind.
thank you kind sir.
ps. i dont think i´m smart enough to leave a trackback but i´ll try.
October 1st, 2005 at 11:29 am
brilliant!
thanks so much for this, i never knew big pimpin was descended from abdul halim tho it’s long been a favorite
peace & love
October 14th, 2005 at 12:41 pm
[…] in preparation for my gig tonight at mash ave, i’ve been working up some more mashups. once again, i’ve been interested in mashing up tracks that are somehow related structurally - i.e., one samples or interpolates or covers the other - in order to hear how they signify on each other. […]
October 24th, 2005 at 6:59 pm
My friend told me he was in a restaurant once, and he said he heard the song playing while he was eating. He never knew Timbaland sampled it until then.
Does anyone have any idea what the name of the song Tim sampled in Aaliyah’s song “Don’t know what to tell you” My friend has that song as well, but he won’t tell me what it is…
February 3rd, 2006 at 2:30 pm
Sea Biscuit the aaliyah song that tim sampled was originally Algerian but I dont know the name of the group or song but I am egyptian. Also I would like to say thank you for publishing this as people will start to recognise the Egyptian Music more and not link it with Bollywood music, its not right that Bollywood take our EGYPTIAN music!!! but am sure there are many more hip hop singers taking the egyptian music, which is good thing really, because Egyptian music should be recognised if using it!!!
Thanks
April 12th, 2006 at 11:19 am
got the following in an email from an ethnomusicologist working on egyptian music. thought i’d append it here to keep the conversation going:
“What struck me (on the second, not the first listen) is the way you have worked in snippets of the Jay-Z (and I saw your discussion of which lyrics you use and your reflections on the various meanings) and mixing those lyrics with `Abd al-Halim’s (which are “what a shame, what a shame, behind you neighbor, my eyes are crying. . .” I’m not an infallible song translator but he’s definitely upset about something - it probably makes sense in the context of a film) - the juxtaposition sparks even more mashed-up meanings.”
July 9th, 2006 at 5:40 pm
please,e.mail me because I have more inf about that song above.and tell me your adresse ,if you please ,or at leaset,where are you,in the us or what,thanks.
July 17th, 2006 at 4:23 pm
hello wayne,the phone no that came to me ,it came from the same state where you are ,anyhow,I rea that awful ,not just awful,I can not find the right world for it ,I can not believe that there is anybody will call it a song ,it is must trashy thing I have ever heard,that is no 1, no 2 why did name that name ,it has nothing of what you mentioned in your article,nothing at all,abdel halim is the most hororable man in the world,he did so much for everybody,I call him the most poorer and richer man in his time,he made too much,but he was giving almost all to hospital,college,orphent,poor homeless ,you name it,when he die all he have is less than 1000 EG.pounds in the bank,people made millions of his work after,about the song ,I will make it short becuase it is a long one,it is about a nieghbor he loved all his live and suddnely they have to be apart( so he said Khosara khosarar forkek ya garar khosarara) what a lost and sadness in my heart for us to be apart.you see wayne who beautiful,romantic song .you do not know how sad I feel that some artist can be so like an engle,and come somebody else and what does not belong to him and make as ugly as your guy did,again I still do not understand why you name with that title,please make me understand.thanks.
July 18th, 2006 at 10:21 am
hi amanda,
thanks for your thoughts about the songs, and for explaining what “khosara” is about. i’m afraid that neither i nor jay-z (”my guy”!) knew anything about the original, except that it sounds beautiful. i agree that the lyrics to “big pimpin” are, in a word, “awful,” which is why i decided to cut most of them out in my remix. the purpose of the remix was to call attention to abdel halim’s original, to critique jay-z, and to make people think about the relationship between the two.
fortunately for all of us, the presence of “big pimpin” in the world does not detract from the beauty of “khosara” or the work of abdel halim. i called the remix “big gyptian” in order to foreground the egyptian-ness of the music, a quality that too few listeners — in the US anyway — know about.
although this hardly constitutes a dialogue between egyptian and american music, i’d like to hear it as something of an exchange. i’m sure there are some amazing egyptian versions of jay-z songs floating around out there, too.
thanks again.
September 3rd, 2006 at 9:20 am
All in all, Egyptians are the best thats y Everybody including big lips Jay-z stealing our shit. Although gotta admitt sounds better in its original form, before the big pimpin remix
Peace
September 18th, 2006 at 9:46 am
camelia,
you would do well to offer a more substantive defense of the original. jingoism and racism hardly help your case.
peace indeed,
w